tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post116534636682456833..comments2024-02-24T09:14:44.403+00:00Comments on The Poor Mouth: Santa Raus!jams o donnellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17315325008175184363noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-1165657051276384202006-12-09T09:37:00.000+00:002006-12-09T09:37:00.000+00:00Od hear.. I may grumble about americanisatin but I...Od hear.. I may grumble about americanisatin but I wouldnt want Santa crucified!!!jams o donnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17315325008175184363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-1165646369273560882006-12-09T06:39:00.000+00:002006-12-09T06:39:00.000+00:00A few years ago a Japanese department store, despe...A few years ago a Japanese department store, desperate to appear Westernised (and perhaps emulate Western sales-figures around Christmas), mounted an extravagant Christmas display, featuring a life-sized Santa Claus, <B>crucified on the cross</B>.Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17367410699252992602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-1165565361437722412006-12-08T08:09:00.000+00:002006-12-08T08:09:00.000+00:00PLease do link, Roland. Linking is the lifeblood o...PLease do link, Roland. Linking is the lifeblood of the blogospherejams o donnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17315325008175184363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-1165559537422186302006-12-08T06:32:00.000+00:002006-12-08T06:32:00.000+00:00Thanks for the heads up to this story Jams, hope y...Thanks for the heads up to this story Jams, hope you don’t mind linking to it.Roland Doddshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17819155097718124744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-1165525416912092442006-12-07T21:03:00.000+00:002006-12-07T21:03:00.000+00:00There you go Snowflake.. Hmm my parents being Iris...There you go Snowflake.. Hmm my parents being Irish used to talk about Santy, now there is a Santa who should go back to wearing green!jams o donnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17315325008175184363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-1165521648279766962006-12-07T20:00:00.000+00:002006-12-07T20:00:00.000+00:00The reason the American Santa is dressed in red an...The reason the American Santa is dressed in red and white is that early in the 20th century, Coca-Cola decided to do a Christmas advertising poster campaign and - you guessed it - dressed the Santa in Coca-Cola colours. It was a very popular campaign and the rest is history!snowflake5https://www.blogger.com/profile/14700425293614182769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-1165478784722861692006-12-07T08:06:00.000+00:002006-12-07T08:06:00.000+00:00Excellent choice. both sound good eh?Excellent choice. both sound good eh?jams o donnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17315325008175184363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-1165453185265903682006-12-07T00:59:00.000+00:002006-12-07T00:59:00.000+00:00It's settled, I wanna party with redwine and steve...It's settled, I wanna party with redwine and steve bates this Christmas!<BR/><BR/>The food sounds delicious enough to keep my conservative mouth shut and out of politic talk trouble!elasticwaistbandladyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12643871078268503643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-1165437657913340932006-12-06T20:40:00.000+00:002006-12-06T20:40:00.000+00:00I am impressed that a not particularly serious com...I am impressed that a not particularly serious comment has had quite a response!<BR/><BR/>Now your xmans is one to go for Steve. And an xmas dinner to really go for! <BR/><BR/>And that sounds like an excellent way to celebrate xmas Red.. cabbages and angels....jams o donnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17315325008175184363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-1165437443197195982006-12-06T20:37:00.000+00:002006-12-06T20:37:00.000+00:00Humbug? Dickens has given a great sweet a bad pres...Humbug? Dickens has given a great sweet a bad press.. I say BAH! Pontefract Cakes byt the then I loathe liqorice<BR/><BR/>Red as Tom Lehrer said, "on xmas day you cant be sore, your fellow man you must adore, there's time to rob them all the more, the other three hundred and sixty four"<BR/><BR/>Bryan, This does not surprise me. The generic xmas is of course a construct. The main irriataion is when the construct supplants other traditions. but ultimately it is up to the individual and vive la difference.. Crackers and xmas pud? I love the latter but not the former!<BR/><BR/>Again vive la diference EWBL. THat I like to hear. I was hoping hte Japanese would have the Xmas present robot they had in an episode of the Simpsons!jams o donnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17315325008175184363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-1165434542178694912006-12-06T19:49:00.000+00:002006-12-06T19:49:00.000+00:00scent, damn. how materialistic I can be.scent, damn. how materialistic I can be.Agneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14427327588753930703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-1165434509372930482006-12-06T19:48:00.000+00:002006-12-06T19:48:00.000+00:00here Christmas begins with a cent> the traditional...here Christmas begins with a cent> the traditional sytufed cabage scent. That is a week before Christmas. parsley, onions, the sour cabbage, women trying to serve the best, this is the most important day of the year for many. On Christmas eve, the same scent everywhere, that of cabbages and poppyseed-cakes late in the afternoon families gather, spinsters, lonely poeple invited, then the angel comes and brings the gifts...I think there are angels after all. I have seen them, they are beautiful, they smell of cabbages and cakes. They have a nostalgia scent after all, so I won't trade my angels for a Santa, ever.Agneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14427327588753930703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-1165428480869831102006-12-06T18:08:00.000+00:002006-12-06T18:08:00.000+00:00I was going to give this thread a miss altogether,...I was going to give this thread a miss altogether, but I cannot resist engaging in a bit of stereotype-breaking.<BR/><BR/>Bryan is absolutely right. Perhaps there are American households in which Christmas looks the way it does in the media and the advertising mailers, but most everyone I know has personal Christmas traditions instead.<BR/><BR/>I enjoy a traditional Christmas dinner with friends. Our tradition for about 20 years has been to dine on sag paneer, Navratan korma, saffron rice, dal, yellow curry etc. at one or another local Indian restaurant. The tradition extends back long enough that my late father and other now departed parents participated.<BR/><BR/>In this same circle of friends, we agree to limit our store-bought gifts to $20. Homemade gifts, baked goods, personal favors and donations to charity in one another's name are of course unlimited. And one may give a friend a book or CD already in one's collection. The thing we exchange most of all is "tidings of comfort and joy." I suppose the purveyors of Christmas goods must be very disappointed in us.<BR/><BR/>As the group contains musicians, over the years, many of us have been occupied playing services or performances on Dec. 25, so we've celebrated together on other days, depending on what was possible.<BR/><BR/>Yes, we have a traditional American Christmas: we make it up as we go along, with many traditions to draw upon, and one of our own in the making.<BR/><BR/>(I like both Father Christmas and the American-style Santa Claus just fine. And at the moment I'm learning about Hogfather...)Steve Bateshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07587223243120009776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-1165425780184821682006-12-06T17:23:00.000+00:002006-12-06T17:23:00.000+00:00I completely agree with bryan! All of our neighbor...I completely agree with bryan! All of our neighbors have different nationalities, and backgrounds, and we all celebrate Christmas a little differently. I always found it interesting that a Communist country like China, and a largely non-Christian nation like Japan goes crazy for Santa Claus and Christmas decorating.elasticwaistbandladyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12643871078268503643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-1165416527676077762006-12-06T14:48:00.000+00:002006-12-06T14:48:00.000+00:00Khe, and the rest of the year? No profiteering the...Khe, and the rest of the year? No profiteering then?Agneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14427327588753930703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-1165395783934092822006-12-06T09:03:00.000+00:002006-12-06T09:03:00.000+00:00Bah humbug - christmas is a time for profiteering....Bah humbug - christmas is a time for profiteering.Garthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15637097897454660933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-1165394169426156432006-12-06T08:36:00.000+00:002006-12-06T08:36:00.000+00:00Of course you can't Mullet.. You will be happy or ...Of course you can't Mullet.. You will be happy or it's prison for you. doesn look as if it will work!<BR/><BR/>I know what you mean Elizabeth. SOme aspects of xmas are ancient but a lot of what we consider traditional are modern constructs. Us we will celebrate xmas in a low key manner, with the not wides family on xmas day and mine on Boxing day.<BR/><BR/>Christmas pud? Ugh! Trifle is good thoughjams o donnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17315325008175184363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-1165380243027404172006-12-06T04:44:00.000+00:002006-12-06T04:44:00.000+00:00We have trifle every Christmas (non-alcoholic, but...We have trifle every Christmas (non-alcoholic, but made from scratch). We do not have Christmas pudding (shudder).Elizabeth-Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12215621448451413460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-1165379995771224662006-12-06T04:39:00.000+00:002006-12-06T04:39:00.000+00:00That image is too much! American Christmas is pret...That image is too much! <BR/>American Christmas is pretty weird. I mean, people my age have a very different idea about Santa than, say, my grandparents. For example, many 'traditional' Christmas songs were written in the 40s! Something can't be traditional if it's born the same year as your mom(mum) ;)Elizabeth-Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12215621448451413460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-1165358068297921702006-12-05T22:34:00.000+00:002006-12-05T22:34:00.000+00:00I must admit my christmas cards have a fairly pred...I must admit my christmas cards have a fairly predictable theme.. Hint I have four of them!jams o donnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17315325008175184363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-1165357687524633812006-12-05T22:28:00.000+00:002006-12-05T22:28:00.000+00:00It will be americanized, Jam, whatever you do> for...It will be americanized, Jam, whatever you do> for the traditional Christmases one needs a family, a community, and one sees only the santas on the TV, magazines...it will take over soon. It is very difficult to find a Christmas card with an angel for example.Agneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14427327588753930703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-1165354228227192112006-12-05T21:30:00.000+00:002006-12-05T21:30:00.000+00:00It is rather isn't it Mullet? Mainly I tune such t...It is rather isn't it Mullet? Mainly I tune such things out but if we have our own perfectly good tradions as the Germans, Czechs and Hungarians do, I say we enjoy them<BR/><BR/>I certainly sympathise with the Czechs too, Ren!jams o donnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17315325008175184363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-1165351895722018712006-12-05T20:51:00.000+00:002006-12-05T20:51:00.000+00:00I guess I'm for seld determination for the Czech R...I guess I'm for seld determination for the Czech Rep.Frank Partisanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03536211653082893030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-1165349428006246512006-12-05T20:10:00.000+00:002006-12-05T20:10:00.000+00:00It it a small irritation but I would much rather t...It it a small irritation but I would much rather to have our own xmas figures rather than the american version.<BR/><BR/>On the other hand Santa is perfect for dyslexic devil worshippers!jams o donnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17315325008175184363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-1165347137693418412006-12-05T19:32:00.000+00:002006-12-05T19:32:00.000+00:00We have never had the Santa, and Hungarian childre...We have never had the Santa, and Hungarian children celebrate Christmas on the 24th of december. But the angel or little Jesus brings the gifts, (mostly the angel) never the Santa, here. And that hasn't changed. For Romanians is "Mosul", (the old man), that is closer to the Santa image.Agneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14427327588753930703noreply@blogger.com