tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post4739965889766953244..comments2024-02-24T09:14:44.403+00:00Comments on The Poor Mouth: Will Polanski finally face the music?jams o donnellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17315325008175184363noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-6252443008285497192009-10-13T21:05:39.256+01:002009-10-13T21:05:39.256+01:00Well said LB!Well said LB!jams o donnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17315325008175184363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-38758067436493402842009-09-30T20:39:51.865+01:002009-09-30T20:39:51.865+01:00Mercifully never watching a David Lunch or Terry G...Mercifully never watching a David Lunch or Terry Gilliam film will be easy,. the overblown, self indulgent wankersjams o donnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17315325008175184363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-84569982023336363152009-09-30T20:28:34.320+01:002009-09-30T20:28:34.320+01:00I posted the text of the petition in Polanski'...I posted the text of the petition in Polanski's favour on my blog, out of disgust. And I'm not going to be seeing a film made by (among others) Martin Scorcese, Terry Gilliam, Pedro Almodovar, or David Lynch again (I stopped watching films by Woody 'My son is also my brother-in-law' Allen a long time ago).A Doubtful Egghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11865149869239061973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-90051786986052394452009-09-30T17:16:51.132+01:002009-09-30T17:16:51.132+01:00Well that leaves Luc Besson so far Egg!Well that leaves Luc Besson so far Egg!jams o donnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17315325008175184363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-36016526075167594382009-09-30T16:54:22.484+01:002009-09-30T16:54:22.484+01:00Just to add my voice to those above in expressing ...Just to add my voice to those above in expressing my horror at those who would defend Polanski, or object to his facing the legal consequences of his actions. Any directors or actors who defend this rapist should have their products boycotted by any right-thinking individual.A Doubtful Egghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11865149869239061973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-78659929812227216912009-09-30T08:42:26.157+01:002009-09-30T08:42:26.157+01:00Thanks Amanda. I agree!Thanks Amanda. I agree!jams o donnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17315325008175184363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-44291096817337999402009-09-30T03:26:44.680+01:002009-09-30T03:26:44.680+01:00Yes he does need to pay for his crimes and celebri...Yes he does need to pay for his crimes and celebrity status should not hinder that process, no one is Above the law.<br />Great post JamsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-86778086998195809132009-09-29T23:17:58.870+01:002009-09-29T23:17:58.870+01:00Well said Knatolee. I agree with you wholeheartedl...Well said Knatolee. I agree with you wholeheartedlyjams o donnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17315325008175184363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-62859603376990637832009-09-29T21:48:38.200+01:002009-09-29T21:48:38.200+01:00Lots of people have terrible trauma in their lives...Lots of people have terrible trauma in their lives and restrain themselves from molesting (not to mention sodomizing!) children. So I do not give him any leeway for his sad history. And did he not plead guilty, THEN flee the country? It's not like his innocence is even in question! He's just a coward.<br /><br />And what do you think about the victim not wanting him charged? I respect the fact that she has forgiven him and doesn't want it all dredged up again, BUT is this different from, say, an abused wife refused to prosecute the husband who beat her? I'm not sure; I'm interested in what people think of that. Here in Canada, it is now up to the police to charge, for example, an abusive husband and it's more or less out of the abused wife's hands whether or not charges are laid if an assault occurs. Of course if she absolutely refuses to testify in court, what do you do, jail the wife for contempt? Not sure that's the answer either!<br /><br />My husband used to work as a Crown prosecutor and I've heard some really awful stories over the years...<br /><br />And as far as the Polanski case goes, would anyone be cutting him any slack were he not rich and famous, not to mention a MAN? Honestly?<br /><br />Right, my work here is done. ;)Knatoleehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03809822081515082096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-63286979014264290662009-09-29T19:41:23.596+01:002009-09-29T19:41:23.596+01:00THanks for all your commentsTHanks for all your commentsjams o donnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17315325008175184363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-5001983776482477642009-09-29T11:44:33.958+01:002009-09-29T11:44:33.958+01:00I think that it will be the cause of WW III, comin...I think that it will be the cause of WW III, coming from a completely unexpected angle. France will attack US soon, you see if the don't.<br /><br />Italy and Poland will join France, UK will join US and the fracas will start to expand. <br /><br />Just a sec, I was reading The Good Soldier Svejk recently...<br /><br />Anyway, I don't see why Polanski can't do time while his artistic achievements are celebrated. He may even watch the party on TV...SnoopyTheGoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00920565522498918323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-86818850064153619932009-09-29T01:22:45.970+01:002009-09-29T01:22:45.970+01:00I don't know. I don't want to defend Polan...I don't know. I don't want to defend Polanski, but the U.S. criminal justice system is a pretty blunt instrument when it comes to sex offenses. It's not as cut and dried as the media is painting it.A Free Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01038930031019179647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-70124915152317639182009-09-28T23:57:16.419+01:002009-09-28T23:57:16.419+01:00when i say most parents I mean parents who are del...when i say most parents I mean parents who are delusional enough to be pushing kids into that industry without a second thoughtAlisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05879980268991240902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-42184352530394450192009-09-28T23:54:36.010+01:002009-09-28T23:54:36.010+01:00Yeah her parents were crummy. But given she was an...Yeah her parents were crummy. But given she was an aspiring actress and model I am amazed they went ahead and reported the rape. Most parents in that situation would have buried the issue for the fame Polanski would have easily secured her. It was a bona fide Vogue teen model shoot after all. The whole thing and the reaction to it from Hollywood is deeply depressing. I had no idea Harrison Ford was a fan of his. Yuck.Alisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05879980268991240902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-32284450355260196352009-09-28T22:55:41.666+01:002009-09-28T22:55:41.666+01:00I am with you on this it was child abuse...
The g...I am with you on this it was child abuse...<br /><br />The good thing about it all is that the girl has been able to move on from the experience and not let it rule her life.CherryPiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11788084724907992076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-27337018912460734622009-09-28T21:47:25.164+01:002009-09-28T21:47:25.164+01:00I am not oblivious to the victim's feelings bu...I am not oblivious to the victim's feelings but I can't get away from the fact that Polanski drugged and fucked her when she was 13. <br /><br />Alison the grand jury transcripts make umpleasant reading. She deserved better protection in the process. She probably also deserved to be protected from her mother as well as precented from being fucked by Polanski<br /><br />THat's a good point Claudia.He has suffered sever taumas in his life there is no doubt. But they cannot and should not mitigatejams o donnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17315325008175184363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-50828402564566819492009-09-28T20:55:08.879+01:002009-09-28T20:55:08.879+01:00What makes me angry with what I hear is that peopl...What makes me angry with what I hear is that people have pity on <i>him</i> because his wife has been murdered, and his mother died in a concentration camp. Why didn't those facts give him more sensitivity for the opposite sex, instead of cruelly assaulting a young girl?Claudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04307495672130972111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-76931427295766888332009-09-28T18:51:09.655+01:002009-09-28T18:51:09.655+01:00Good post.
I can say from the pov of being raped...Good post. <br /><br />I can say from the pov of being raped that you don't want to dredge through this deeply humiliating issue with family around or put them through any of it. It is so personal and humiliating and awful. Her frame of mind now and his status should not stand in the way of justice though. Else we may as well dispense with the rule of law and the age of consent.<br /><br />What I found shocking reading the case notes today (available on line) was that the original judge asked her why she did not put up a struggle. She replied she was frightened of him. A drugged CHILD in the company of an imposing older adult male. I would have been terrified. What a crummy and ridiculous question to ask. I like to think we have made some progress in such cases since then but sadly I doubt it.alisonhttp://adirtymartini.typepad.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-87509971785759415872009-09-28T17:16:41.330+01:002009-09-28T17:16:41.330+01:00Me too KnatoleeMe too Knatoleejams o donnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17315325008175184363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-19584522757248036272009-09-28T16:57:27.264+01:002009-09-28T16:57:27.264+01:00Eeeyuw. I was 13 in 1977. Eeeeyuw eeeyuww eeyuuuuu...Eeeyuw. I was 13 in 1977. Eeeeyuw eeeyuww eeyuuuuuuuuwwwwww!<br /><br />Were I that 13-year-old, I would want to see the perpetrator brought to trial for his crime.Knatoleehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03809822081515082096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-5720209370368388502009-09-28T12:50:31.735+01:002009-09-28T12:50:31.735+01:00Why is it that celebrities feel that laws do not a...Why is it that celebrities feel that laws do not apply to them? It is long past time for RP to pay for his crime, and crime it was and still is!Traveling Bellshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03676508973837237488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-4248441619166823402009-09-28T00:16:57.989+01:002009-09-28T00:16:57.989+01:00I agree with you on that point Pagan. I do realise...I agree with you on that point Pagan. I do realise that it will be hell for the victim to have this dredged up again. But then again she has been living with it for over 30 years. Perhaps a sentence will help give her closure<br /><br />I agree wholeheartedly Jay. There is a gaping chasm between his art and his crime<br /><br />Claudia I agree that the art and the man cannot be compartmentalised, certainly not for a crime as vile as his.jams o donnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17315325008175184363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-9406903127229717532009-09-27T23:59:50.578+01:002009-09-27T23:59:50.578+01:00I wouldn't know what Polanski has done artisti...I wouldn't know what Polanski has done artistically since he flew his country to escape justice. I boycotted him. The man is his art, and the art is the man. I cannot separate both in my mind. It's not a holier-than-thou attitude. We might all do things (not in this area, but in others) that we regret. But in this case, it was done to a child. Until he has paid his due, he doesn't deserve recognition. I hope that he is condemned to do jail time. I've heard than even hardened criminals are not very kind in jail with a child rapist. Let him have a taste of the hell he has cruelly created in an innocent child's mind and body. She might have moved on. But the memory will never die.Claudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04307495672130972111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-55870820207060735022009-09-27T22:10:25.443+01:002009-09-27T22:10:25.443+01:00The lady has "moved on" according to her...The lady has "moved on" according to her own words, but I guess justice is justice and nobody can be officially forgive just because the victim has already moved on. <br /><br />I can't believe so many people are on his side - as if they couldn't differentiate between the man and his art.Jay from Vancouverhttp://vancouverrealtor.hi5.com/friend/profile/displayJournal.do?ownerId=425437284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-48102843866630272642009-09-27T21:20:20.079+01:002009-09-27T21:20:20.079+01:00He is incredibly talented, yes. Knife in the Water...He is incredibly talented, yes. Knife in the Water is one of my favorite films ever. However, the two issues should be separate. He also raped a young girl and he should have to answer to it fully. <br /><br />The comment from the victim of the rape is telling, though. These types of high-profile cases make shreds out of the person who is most in need of protection. That doesn't mean I don't think RP shouldn't be prosecuted, just that I feel for the girl, who is trying to get on with her life.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17296223961815248113noreply@blogger.com