tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post6043667856252995675..comments2024-02-24T09:14:44.403+00:00Comments on The Poor Mouth: Christmas – a time to jail dissidentsjams o donnellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17315325008175184363noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-43586703167284703972009-12-28T11:13:22.572+00:002009-12-28T11:13:22.572+00:00Asylum application stats across the EU taell a ver...Asylum application stats across the EU taell a very different story Beakerkinjams o donnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17315325008175184363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-21824933495473014772009-12-27T13:15:33.500+00:002009-12-27T13:15:33.500+00:00Pouty
Speak for yourself. My peers in China
work ...Pouty<br /><br />Speak for yourself. My peers in China<br />work very hard to free people like this dissident.<br /><br />While my country and agency work very hard to free people like this, what has the EU done? Moreover what has the EU done to free Cuban dissidents.The EU spits upon the people of Cuba while supporting a dictatorship that pays<br />enough homage to Marx.<br /><br />As the USA has extensive business<br />ties with China it does quietly<br />release dissidents albeit low key.beakerkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06088967209404588378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-54302544550719008692009-12-27T13:08:38.226+00:002009-12-27T13:08:38.226+00:00Jams
The USA does way more than the EU in this ar...Jams<br /><br />The USA does way more than the EU in this area. The Chinese dissident community is almost entirely based in the USA. We do not have politicians who mock the protesters like you in the UK. Any such politician would get ridiculed on FOX or on talk radio 24/7 ala Cynthia<br />McKinney.<br /><br />My counterparts in China work very<br />hard to secure freedom for dissidents. They do this while the <br />EU does zero.<br /><br />The USA has always supported human<br />rights around the globe while the<br />folks in the EU waxed in an amoral<br />fog about Marxism. There is a prisoner in Cuba who has served longer than Mandela and the EU crowd does nothing other than lecture the USA about boycotts. Cuba has sent foreign mercenaries around the globe and supported insurrection and pointless wars. <br /><br />What has the EU done? It has done nothing. <br /><br />The Cuban refugees risk life and limb to escape and the folks at the EU pretend they are non people. The folks at the EU pretend that the Conga line from Caracas to the USA are all liars.<br /><br />When Iranian refugees look for a home they seldom go to Europe.beakerkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06088967209404588378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-34788691861740172142009-12-27T11:01:53.193+00:002009-12-27T11:01:53.193+00:00Very tru Claudia. For some a petitio will work - S...Very tru Claudia. For some a petitio will work - Some states for example are surprisingly sensitive about their internatonal image and they would react sometimes to a petition.<br /><br />What works for China is a differnet matter, We can hardly apply sanctions given that we need China more than they need usjams o donnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17315325008175184363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-29728219747671569092009-12-27T02:04:32.126+00:002009-12-27T02:04:32.126+00:00Of course, we shouldn't be silent, Jams. I spe...Of course, we shouldn't be silent, Jams. I spend hours on the phone, for Pen Canada, to get people to sign petitions to China. What I'm trying to say is that we should do something better, something that works. And our governements shouldn't rebuke China one day, and do business with it the next day. No wonder our words are not taken seriously.Claudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04307495672130972111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-82429338345575853612009-12-27T00:42:11.310+00:002009-12-27T00:42:11.310+00:00Sadly so Claudia. I am not sure China will give a ...Sadly so Claudia. I am not sure China will give a dman about international opinion. Still that is no reason for silencejams o donnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17315325008175184363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-44763041476665244722009-12-26T23:46:56.261+00:002009-12-26T23:46:56.261+00:00China doesn't worry about what we think. No ma...China doesn't worry about what we think. No matter what that bastard (sorry!) government does, we still do business deals with them. My Prime Minister visited, and pointed a disapproving finger, and then arranged for some trade!!! I don't know if it will help that Pen International (and all the Chapters in different countries) are collecting thousands, and thousands of signatures condemning the sentencing as "a grievous betrayal of a Chinese citizen's rights". All the letters will get thrown out probably. What else can we do?Claudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04307495672130972111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-27355471696902495262009-12-26T21:32:25.797+00:002009-12-26T21:32:25.797+00:00Beakerkin isn't the US hugely in hock to China...Beakerkin isn't the US hugely in hock to China? Will that not ultimately affect the USA's response to its acts.<br /><br />As for this article we are taklking about China here, not Cuba. When I talk about Cuba, I will not refer to China.<br /><br />THe bottom line is that China has disgracefully sentenced a dissident to an appalling sentence<br /><br />James what better time to do something like this?<br /><br />Haha Pouty Lips!jams o donnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17315325008175184363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-2148258924508251022009-12-26T17:21:12.870+00:002009-12-26T17:21:12.870+00:00I guess it's his fault he's in jail then f...I guess it's his fault he's in jail then for not defecting to the US where he would be safe. I guess I should have said, stupid dissident.Susan English Masonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05661766173970296173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-44456905827520078302009-12-26T10:46:35.302+00:002009-12-26T10:46:35.302+00:00Yep, when people's guards are down, in come th...Yep, when people's guards are down, in come they who never sleep, never rest.James Highamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14525082702330365464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-65195424962725718212009-12-26T10:38:38.338+00:002009-12-26T10:38:38.338+00:00Jams
Sorry, but the USA does far more than any ot...Jams<br /><br />Sorry, but the USA does far more than any other country in this area. We accept scores of political asylees. While the USA has done plenty what has the EU done.<br /><br />Furthermore, there is a man sitting in jail longer than Mandela in Cuba.What have the folks in the EU done to free him. It would seem the folks in Europe have done more to harm the cause of freedom than help it. Were it not for the USA and some help from<br />Thatcher Eastern Europe would still<br />be colonized while clowns like Galloway pretend that this is the will of Eastern Europeans.<br /><br />China will implode on its own.beakerkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06088967209404588378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-79034641241810831112009-12-26T09:56:34.025+00:002009-12-26T09:56:34.025+00:00Sadly there is too mmuch truth in that Pouty Lips....Sadly there is too mmuch truth in that Pouty Lips. When CHina says so the US will bend over and take another inchjams o donnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17315325008175184363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19492813.post-70371812278816286552009-12-26T04:01:30.774+00:002009-12-26T04:01:30.774+00:00The US can't touch that. China owns our debt, ...The US can't touch that. China owns our debt, owns us, or both.Susan English Masonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05661766173970296173noreply@blogger.com