21 April 2010

I'm sure Philip Zec would have seen the BNP in a similar light


Phlip Zec was a political cartoonist who pulled no punches. THis is how he viewed the Nazis then.. If he was still with us there would be no doubt that his view on the BNP would be equally caustic. The BNP may wear suits but they are still violent thugs at heart.

11 comments:

beakerkin said...

Jams

Dehuanizing people makes us no different from the odious people we reject. One need not discuss Der Shturmer to see the point.

The BNP is vile and there are some nasty folks there. The folks are crass opportunists,but they are the symptom of the disease.

Mainstream political groups have not discussed the implied social contract with regards to immigration. As more mainstream parties neglected the issue or in some cases exacerbated it this created an opportunity for populist exploitation.

1) Immigration is a privilege not a right.
2) Immigrants have certain duties that go along with this arrangement.

a) Obey the laws.
b) find work and don't abuse the social safety net.
c) respect others
d) Learn the language and customs
e) Send your kids to school.

In the old days this was understood. What is different is that a cadre of social workers and bottom feeders like Curious George have fed immigrants a diet of Bad Jew and you are a victim.

Of course making sure there are first rate schools and creating jobs is not as important as endless
trips to Gaza and bombastic rhetoric.

Steve Hayes said...

The reaction to the recent murder of Eugene Terre'blanche in South Africa made me wonder what the reaction in Britain would be if Nick Griffin were murdered.

beakerkin said...

My guess it would be like Pim Fortyn.
There was a romance but the movement suffered. Comparing tGriffin to a more responsible politician is a mistake. However, in a bad economy all bets are off.

The murder in South Africa was part of a story the media does not like to discuss. The critics of the ANC had some valid points. The runaway crime and economic malfeasance has not reached Zimbawe levels. However, the current regime contains loose canons who praise the example of Mugabe.

The future does not look good at this point in time, but it is not written in stone.

jams o donnell said...

@ Beakerkin I Populists will reate an issue regardles Beakerkin even if as is the case the great majority of immigrants do exactly what you say they should do.

Here the whote working class feel disenfrranchised. THis puzzles me in the great ajority of cases.It;s not as if they are doing badly.. and if for example their children are not achieveing so well in school the reasons are almost certainly within and not outwith. A lot of it is simply resentment that tohers are getting along.

THe relativelty small number of cases of injustice or over reaction to previous discrimination (we do not have positive discrimination here)are highlighted so they become the norm in the mindset of the white working class/

If this sounds arrogant don't forget that is exactly where I started from. We were not poor but I was raised in a decidedly blue collar home although with parents who had aspirations for us greater than they could achieve. I'm not saying that nothing is wrong either

@ Steve It would not pleasse me at all. Much as he disgusts me I don't want him to be seen as a martyr.

@ Beakerkin II I think you are basically correct on all counts

@ Snoopy. THat is very true. Sadly the 1940's view of the gorilla was not enlightened!

beakerkin said...

Jams

I am glad the great majority of immigrants do comply with the timeless social contract of immigration.

This may be the only blog that has
posts between two immigration officers of different countries.
You left the racket and I am still
on the job.



The BNP is not the only group guilty of populism. Curious George and Livingstoned are guilty of feeding Muslim immigrants a steady diet of Bad Jew and horrible local conditions. Perhaps building great schools and strong local economies are not media events like revolving door trips to Gaza.

At a certain point the Bad Joo stuff doesn't educate your kids and provide jobs for families. The BNP is not the only party guilty of populism.

Maybe one day we should do a cross
post on the images of immigration
from the front lines. It would either be great reading or put Ted to sleep. Then again he does have high standards.

jams o donnell said...

I've been out of the business for nearly 20 years and I don't stay abreast of regulation changes. THat said people are people where ever they come form and the great majority are basically decent.

Why not have a debate or dicussion

Knatolee said...

There are people in Canada who would love it if we had our own BNP. It disgusts me! I am truly disheartened at the things going on in this country and the world these days... people seem to be getting ever more hateful, racists and bigoted. Or maybe I'm just getting older and more cynical...

Knatolee said...

People are having a sh*t-fit right now in Quebec(and other parts of Canada) over women wearing niqabs. The Quebec government has in fact introduced a bill to ban women wearing the niqab from getting public services. (Like we even HAVE that many women in niqabs running around the country!) Instead of being kind and accommodating to newcomers, people are letting themselves be ruled by fear and prejudice. I wish they would at least admit it's pure racism, rather than pretending that banning niqabs protects us from terrorists and the like. As far as I'm concerned, if you're going to ban niqabs, you'd better be consistent and ban nun's habits and yarmulkes and everything else related!

Best not to get me started ranting on this one... I just think it's all very sad and unkind, and I can see how little things, not unlike this niqab situation, snowballed (for example) to allow someone called Hitler to take power and commit genocide with complicity of a nation. Parties like the BNP are vessels of hatred.

Anonymous said...

Supposedly, this is how he viewed the Nazis.

Was it that or is this how he viewed Hindus - the older and bigger users of the swastika symbol.

Also note that this is not the Hitler's swastika - but the Indian swastika. Hitler's swastika points the other way.

2ndlook said...

Supposedly, this is how he viewed the Nazis.

Was it that or is this how he viewed Hindus - the older and bigger users of the swastika symbol.

Note that this is not the Hitler's swastika - but the Indian swastika.

Hitler's swastika points the other way.

Anonymous said...

Supposedly, this is how he viewed the Nazis.

Was it that or is this how he viewed Hindus - the older and bigger users of the swastika symbol.

Note that this is not the Hitler's swastika - but the Indian swastika.

Hitler's swastika points the other way.